1. What is
remote viewing, and why were NASA, the CIA, and the
Defense Intelligence Agency supporting your research in
the 1970's and 80's at Stanford Research Institute?
During more than a
decade at Stanford Research Institute, we discovered that
ordinary people visiting our laboratory could learn to
accurately describe and experience what was going on at
distant places, even though the locations were hundreds
or thousands of miles away. With practice, any person can
learn to do what we named "remote viewing."
This capacity shows that our human potential is much
grander than most people suppose.
Our government sought to
use talented remote-viewers for gathering information
about Soviet weapons development during the cold war, but
we are interested in teaching people to claim their
natural abilities and incorporate them into their lives
for peaceful uses.
Why should we be interested in remote viewing?
Remote viewing is one
example of our access to what physicists call non-local
awareness, and what a healer calls our spiritual
community. Looking in on the Russians is actually an
invitation to claim our ability as human beings to
participate in a larger non-local world that is not
limited by the ordinary constraints of distance and time.
By quieting our random mental chatter, we can expand our
awareness of who we are, and what we are capable of.
Experiences of community of spirit reveal our inherent
connection to each other, and empower us with the
knowledge of our ability to affect the world we live in.
These spiritual perspectives beyond the purely material
offer us opportunities for more meaningful lives.
In addition, access to
non-local awareness provides a toolbox allowing us to do
many things that may seem unrelated, such as healing the
sick, locating parking spaces, and even forecasting the
Were you ever able to tell our government's intelligence
agency anything useful, that they didnt know before
you told them?
During the Cold War, one
of our talented remote viewers, who was actually a
policeman, drew pictures of a secret Soviet weapons
laboratory, and accurately described and drew in great
detail, to scale, the particle beam weapons systems under
construction. Four years later, after the viewer had
died, this information was verified by US spy satellites.
The detailed information
conveyed in these enlarged drawings we have brought was
considered to be highly valuable by special congressional
committees as well as the CIA. This is just one example
of hundreds of similar remarkable cases, most of which
are still classified.
Our main interest is in
sharing the fact that these abilities are available to us
all, and can be developed for positive uses in our life,
and we teach people how in our book, Miracles of Mind.
What does this kind of psychic ability have to do with
the spiritual healing that you also talk about in your
We are all capable of
both of these human capacities that entail mind-to-mind
connections. Worldwide psychic research data from more
than 50 years show conclusively that our awareness is
able to transcend distance and time, and come back with
useful information. In remote viewing, our mind
experiences distant places and events. For the spiritual
healer, this connection is achieved by surrendering
awareness to God, and through this, making a mind-to-mind
connection with the patient.
How do you know that this kind of healing actually works?
hospital studies have been done recently with AIDS
patients, cardiac patients, and surgical patients. All of
these have shown that the people in the prayed-for group
had much better outcomes than the controls, for whom no
distant healing was attempted.
What do you mean by non-local mind?
were first described by Einstein in the 1930s, and
non-local mind has been discussed by Dr. Larry Dossey in
his recent books. It refers to the Buddhist idea that
separation of consciousness is an illusion. The data show
that we are actually connected in surprising ways to
points in space-time that appear distant to us. It is an
important idea, indicating that we greatly underestimate
the extent to which we are interconnected with each
you really can look into the future, can you get
information that is actually good for anything?
Yes. The two of us were
able to use remote viewing to forecast changes in the
prices of silver commodity futures eleven out of twelve
tries. But, this was for science, and we were not
actually trading in the market.
both of you are able to do remote viewing, as you
describe, are you both spiritual healers as well?
No. Jane has had more
than twenty years of practice, in addition to being
especially gifted in that area. Our experience and belief
is that remote viewing and healing are naturally endowed
abilities all of us possess. Developing these normal
human capabilities entails learning to quiet our mind and
focus our attention with clear intent."
How did Jane, as a university professor, become a
Twenty years before she
was a professor, Jane was given the gift of healing in a
dream that was like a near-death experience for her, when
she was in the Philippines on assignment to observe the
famous psychic surgeons that were said to practice there.
Does your book tell us how to become a healer or a spy?
We outline how remote
viewing works, so that a person will have enough
information to practice with a friend and learn to do it
surprisingly well. We give a lot of new information about
spiritual healing, but we do not undertake to teach it
What does modern physics have to say about this?
We live in a world
governed by Heisenbergs uncertainty principle, Kurt
Gödels famous incompleteness theorem,
Einsteins universe of non-locality, and the world
of quantum-interconnectedness of physicist David Bohm.
That leaves plenty of room for remote viewing. Our work
has been replicated in labs all over the world, and we
have published our results in distinguished scientific
Do you have to believe in God to develop psychic
We think that God is a
testable hypothesis, not something that you necessarily
have to believe in. Even atheists can learn to do remote
viewing, but they may be surprised to discover that they
are part of a spiritual community that they didnt
Does that mean that you think that psychic abilities are
sacred or religious?
Not necessarily. We
believe that psychic abilities are a natural perceptual
capabilities that are available to us all, to incorporate
into our lives, and greatly expand our awareness of the
world we live in.